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> <channel><title>Comments on: Devore Campground &#8211; Angeles National Forest</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/</link> <description>Backpacking Trip Reports &#38; Photography</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:18:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Backpacking Point Mugu &#8211; Camping La Jolla Canyon &#124; Chayacitra</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link> <dc:creator>Backpacking Point Mugu &#8211; Camping La Jolla Canyon &#124; Chayacitra</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:13:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-371</guid> <description>[...] Stop claiming that my destinations are &#8220;inaccessible&#8221;, &#8220;too dangerous&#8221; (Devore Campground), or &#8220;non-existent&#8221;. I&#8217;ve accessed them, they&#8217;re not dangerous, and there [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stop claiming that my destinations are &#8220;inaccessible&#8221;, &#8220;too dangerous&#8221; (Devore Campground), or &#8220;non-existent&#8221;. I&#8217;ve accessed them, they&#8217;re not dangerous, and there [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mt. Wilson &#8211; Angeles National Forest &#124; Chayacitra</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link> <dc:creator>Mt. Wilson &#8211; Angeles National Forest &#124; Chayacitra</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:18:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-131</guid> <description>[...] back, just after the fire, when I hiked up to Newcomb Pass during an aborted attempt at reaching Devore Campground, but the view was obstructed and the photos turned out like shit, which is why I&#8217;ve since [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back, just after the fire, when I hiked up to Newcomb Pass during an aborted attempt at reaching Devore Campground, but the view was obstructed and the photos turned out like shit, which is why I&#8217;ve since [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link> <dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:24:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-11</guid> <description>Who says I was aiming for credibility? If you check my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chayacitra.com/?page_id=48&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mission Statement&lt;/a&gt; you&#039;ll see that this is in no way a Blog about trail conditions or safety advisories.
Have you read any of my other posts? I&#039;d guess that &quot;credibility&quot; went out the window right around &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=214&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Post Numero Uno&lt;/a&gt;.
Anyway- How do you think people did their adventuring back in the days before the Internet? How about before cell phones? Or Hell, even before telephones themselves? Do you think Lewis and Clark called ahead, made reservations, or did &quot;basic research&quot; on their way out West? Hell no! They picked up their gear and took off! What makes you think I should do otherwise?
People who know what they&#039;re doing don&#039;t need to call ahead. Haven&#039;t you seen Man vs. Wild? [Editor&#039;s Note: I&#039;m only half serious]. We prepare for the worst and figure things out on the fly! Just because someone says that an area&#039;s closed doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not going. I&#039;ve been in plenty of &quot;closed&quot; areas before and never run into any trouble. When it comes down to it- I&#039;m way more afraid of driving to work than hiking through a burned out canyon. After all, it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nsc.org/research/odds.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;way more dangerous&lt;/a&gt;!
If you ask me, it&#039;s your &quot;typical LA people&quot; that call ahead, inquire into safety conditions, and then turn tail and run at the first sign of danger! What kind of fun is that? Why even leave my front door? If you knew me at all, you&#039;d realize how wrong you are about my &quot;type&quot;.
Besides- It&#039;s not every day that your local Forest burns to ashes. The Station Fire is an event unrivaled in modern local history! A real natural disaster of epic proportions! It&#039;s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see total destruction on a massive scale! To witness firsthand the devastation and rebirth of an entire ecosystem!
And talk about the opportunity of a lifetime for a local &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chayacitra.com/?cat=6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Photographer&lt;/a&gt;! How could you blame me for wanting to get out there and document this extraordinary event?
Now- Don&#039;t think I&#039;m trying to say I&#039;m not to blame for flying by the seat of my pants, but that was the whole point of the trip! I wanted to see how close I could get to the damage, and as soon as it became obvious I wasn&#039;t supposed to be there I dug in and held the line.
I wasn&#039;t expecting a &quot;ride closed&quot; sign anywhere at all. Shit, if it were up to me the ride would always be open! I would have been down in that bowl exploring those ashes if I hadn&#039;t been told to scram!
And don&#039;t kid yourself- It&#039;s not for &quot;safety reasons&quot; that we&#039;re not allowed in that area. It&#039;s because of Lawyers and frivolous lawsuits. The State doesn&#039;t care if I get hurt; they just don&#039;t want me suing the pants off of them! Which, I might add, I would never do.
In the end though, we&#039;re on the same team Leroy. I despise the same type of people you do, and I&#039;m certainly not one of them. And I apologize that my post got you all riled up like that. It certainly wasn&#039;t my intention!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says I was aiming for credibility? If you check my <a
href="http://www.chayacitra.com/?page_id=48">Mission Statement</a> you&#8217;ll see that this is in no way a Blog about trail conditions or safety advisories.</p><p>Have you read any of my other posts? I&#8217;d guess that &#8220;credibility&#8221; went out the window right around <a
href="http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=214">Post Numero Uno</a>.</p><p>Anyway- How do you think people did their adventuring back in the days before the Internet? How about before cell phones? Or Hell, even before telephones themselves? Do you think Lewis and Clark called ahead, made reservations, or did &#8220;basic research&#8221; on their way out West? Hell no! They picked up their gear and took off! What makes you think I should do otherwise?</p><p>People who know what they&#8217;re doing don&#8217;t need to call ahead. Haven&#8217;t you seen Man vs. Wild? [Editor's Note: I'm only half serious]. We prepare for the worst and figure things out on the fly! Just because someone says that an area&#8217;s closed doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not going. I&#8217;ve been in plenty of &#8220;closed&#8221; areas before and never run into any trouble. When it comes down to it- I&#8217;m way more afraid of driving to work than hiking through a burned out canyon. After all, it&#8217;s <a
href="http://www.nsc.org/research/odds.aspx">way more dangerous</a>!</p><p>If you ask me, it&#8217;s your &#8220;typical LA people&#8221; that call ahead, inquire into safety conditions, and then turn tail and run at the first sign of danger! What kind of fun is that? Why even leave my front door? If you knew me at all, you&#8217;d realize how wrong you are about my &#8220;type&#8221;.</p><p>Besides- It&#8217;s not every day that your local Forest burns to ashes. The Station Fire is an event unrivaled in modern local history! A real natural disaster of epic proportions! It&#8217;s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see total destruction on a massive scale! To witness firsthand the devastation and rebirth of an entire ecosystem!</p><p>And talk about the opportunity of a lifetime for a local <a
href="http://www.chayacitra.com/?cat=6">Photographer</a>! How could you blame me for wanting to get out there and document this extraordinary event?</p><p>Now- Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m trying to say I&#8217;m not to blame for flying by the seat of my pants, but that was the whole point of the trip! I wanted to see how close I could get to the damage, and as soon as it became obvious I wasn&#8217;t supposed to be there I dug in and held the line.</p><p>I wasn&#8217;t expecting a &#8220;ride closed&#8221; sign anywhere at all. Shit, if it were up to me the ride would always be open! I would have been down in that bowl exploring those ashes if I hadn&#8217;t been told to scram!</p><p>And don&#8217;t kid yourself- It&#8217;s not for &#8220;safety reasons&#8221; that we&#8217;re not allowed in that area. It&#8217;s because of Lawyers and frivolous lawsuits. The State doesn&#8217;t care if I get hurt; they just don&#8217;t want me suing the pants off of them! Which, I might add, I would never do.</p><p>In the end though, we&#8217;re on the same team Leroy. I despise the same type of people you do, and I&#8217;m certainly not one of them. And I apologize that my post got you all riled up like that. It certainly wasn&#8217;t my intention!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: leroy</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link> <dc:creator>leroy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:55:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-10</guid> <description>Any credibility is lost when you don&#039;t do some basic research about an area that just entirely fried... especially being someone that seems to have some experience outdoors.
In the end, you&#039;re just another of the typical LA people expecting a a &quot;ride closed&quot; sign at every turn and someone to take your hand and show you where you ca and can&#039;t go.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any credibility is lost when you don&#8217;t do some basic research about an area that just entirely fried&#8230; especially being someone that seems to have some experience outdoors.</p><p>In the end, you&#8217;re just another of the typical LA people expecting a a &#8220;ride closed&#8221; sign at every turn and someone to take your hand and show you where you ca and can&#8217;t go.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: !!!</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link> <dc:creator>!!!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:27:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-9</guid> <description>The Forest Service up there is not know for being the most friendliest of rangers. You cant blame them though, being JUST out side of L.A., They have a tendency to be &quot;friendlier&quot; towards you only AFTER you hve paid the camping site fee. they are always on the defensive. Especially now after the fire. There going to have to expect A LOT of looky-loos, and now that I know that HWY 2 is open I will be the next in line!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Forest Service up there is not know for being the most friendliest of rangers. You cant blame them though, being JUST out side of L.A., They have a tendency to be &#8220;friendlier&#8221; towards you only AFTER you hve paid the camping site fee. they are always on the defensive. Especially now after the fire. There going to have to expect A LOT of looky-loos, and now that I know that HWY 2 is open I will be the next in line!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elvis</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link> <dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-8</guid> <description>Sometimes everything works out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes everything works out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pol Pot</title><link>http://www.chayacitra.com/2009/10/devore-campround-angeles-national-forest-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link> <dc:creator>Pol Pot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:06:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chayacitra.com/?p=453#comment-7</guid> <description>While I was reading this I was waiting for you to mention you were an eagle scout! lol
Your extremeley illustrative writing brought me back to the time we were being consumed by a mountain full of mosquitos.
Its terrible that land was destroyed, it was such a beautiful and peaceful place. Even though the land was obliterated I will always remember how much fun we had there over fourth of july!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was reading this I was waiting for you to mention you were an eagle scout! lol</p><p>Your extremeley illustrative writing brought me back to the time we were being consumed by a mountain full of mosquitos.</p><p>Its terrible that land was destroyed, it was such a beautiful and peaceful place. Even though the land was obliterated I will always remember how much fun we had there over fourth of july!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
